Activate or Deactivate Services like Airplay

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Hi together,
first… i bought some v4 and 2.1 amp boards and they are great! good products…
but i miss an amp with Airplay 2 features. :slight_smile:

i’m planning to build a multiroom solution for my house with 7 boards. to get Airplay 2 features i will add 7 Airport Express devices at line in of each board. :smiley: in this setup i’ll have 14 Airplay “Speakers” and that could be a bit confusing… Is it possible to implement a feature (i think via API is enough, because its a bit special) to deactivate the integrated Airplay Service in your products?

Or have I overlooked something and i can already deactivate it?

Thank you!

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@Freithelm Fabian,

Welcome to the forum. There are plenty of friendly, knowledgeable and helpful people here.

Seems like a adventurous project you have to keep yourself busy :slight_smile:

I don’t think I have seen an API commands to disable Services. You can find information on HTTPAPI here Arylic Audio HTTP API

Personally I would use the “LAN/WLAN Router” to “block/firewall” the transmission of the services from appearing on the LAN/WLAN. For example (disclaimer here just an idea) you could block the Airplay Service Transmission (I imagine it would be something like RAOP) on the 7 IP addresses for the Arylic Products. I assume your 7 Airport Expresses will have another 7 IP Addresses.

P.S. I know nothing about Airplay 2.

Hope this helps, Kevin

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Hi @NWT.Stuff Kevin!
That is a clever idea. :slight_smile:
i will check if i can use the firewall to block the service for my network (for the relevant 7 ip addresses).

According to the apple docs, these are the following ports i will try (maybe interesting for other users):
554 TCP/UDP - Real Time Streaming Protocol (RTSP)
3689 TCP - Digital Audio Access Protocol (DAAP)
5353 UDP - Multicast DNS (MDNS)

i will give you feedback asap.

Thanks and best regards!
Fabian

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Hey together!
It’s not that easy to implement this rules without a hardware firewall or managed switch in the local network. :smiley: I cannot configure this firewall rule(s) in my router. That feature doesn’t exist. :frowning: So I can’t test it. Sorry! :frowning:

Maybe an engineer can answer if there is another option to deactivate airplay in the arylic board?

Thanks a lot!

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@Freithelm Fabian,

Post your router manufacturer and model number. I’ll have a look through the manual to see if there is a solution this way.

Also what device/s are you using as a Control Point eg. Iphone, Mac. Android phone etc.

Regards, Kevin

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@NWT.Stuff Hi Kevin,
it’s a FRITZ!Box 7590.

Thank you!

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OK

Also what device/s are you using as a Control Point eg. Iphone, Mac. Android phone etc.

Kevin

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@NWT.Stuff Hi Kevin!
My family is using different versions of iPhones, one iPad and two MacBook Pro. Thanks in advance!

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@Freithelm Fabian

Yes agree can see anything obvious in the Fritz Box that could help. If only the parental controls was extended to LAN ports :slight_smile:

I found this useful article:
https://scottiestech.info/2015/05/14/how-to-block-apple-bonjour-on-your-local-network/

However what I suggested was always going to a quick work around if your router had something that way. It is certainly not a generic solution.

The more I think about it the best way is as you suggest have the capability to disable the service. I used to use Volumio on RPI and in the web interface I could enable and disable DLNA/UPNP or Airplay.

@zpl1025 is it easy/possible to disable Airplay & DLNA Renderer Service on the A31 boards ?

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The airplay service is activated by default, and user could deactivate it with UART command: MCU+AIR+OFF, and to turn it back on, send: MCU+AIR++ON.

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Great! I will try it out today evening. Thank you!

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Or… use this new Arylic product that supports Airplay 2 and simplify your setup as you won’t need the airports at all!

Up2Stream HD DAC - High-Res Multiroom Wireless Aptx HD Audio Streaming – Arylic

Expensive I know but maybe not having to pay for the Airports will balance it out? Obviously no good if you’ve already bought everything.

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I already took a look at the HD DAC board, but it’s not an amplifier. I would also need an amp board. An airports costs me about 35-40€. It’s not the best solution but currently the cheapest. :slight_smile:

If there will be an airplay 2 board with amp the next months I maybe will wait for it! @zpl1025 is it planned?

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Whoop whoop! That worked! :slight_smile: Great… Thank you! :slight_smile:

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I want to know what answer did you get from @zpl1025 :slight_smile: is product comming soon?

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For the new platform, as it’s support hi-res output, we’re still considering for the components to balance the performance and cost. Will build a new product but not so quick.

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Hi everyone,

sorry to dig up this old thread again but it has been the closest thing I could find to what I am trying to do.

So basically I want to use the spotify connect function of music assistant to have better control over the music through home assistant. I use one Up2Stream Amp2.1, one Arylic S10+ and multiple Up2Stream AMP 2.0s. Right now that would lead to duplicates since I would have the native spotify connect device of the Arylic devices and the ones through music assistant. Is there a UART Command which disables spotify similar to how it can disable Airplay?

Thank you in advance!

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Hi Braunbier, no such API to disable Spotify

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Hi zpl1025, thanks a lot for the quick reply. Is there any chance that this could be added in the future?

Unfortunately my Fritz Box does not have the granularity in the settings to block it in another way.

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nope, there’s no such controls exported by the A31 module